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Bletchley Park Visit
31/08/2013
Since our visit last year to Bletchley Park, TNMOC have added a few more old bits. Thus here we go again!
Transport is via personal means and/or car share. No doubt we’ll clear up all details at the Beeston Blue Moon Beers and subsequently on the maillist. Provisionally, the car shares depart Nottingham about 7:30am sometime civilised to arrive for 9:30am sometime in the morning as the gates open so as to beat the crowds. Rendezvous can be via mobiles and the Bletchley Park cafe hut. There’s easily more than enough there to see and do to become completely lost for the day!
John is arranging for a ‘special tour’ for us all via his inside connections for TNMOC in the afternoon.
Cost: £15 for Bletchley, £5 for the National Museum of Computing or £2 Colossus and Tunny only, concessions are available – so bring ID! Don’t forget your passes and ID needed from last year for those so organized!
Also, noone had best mention such as N S A, or G C H Q or Google or the namesake of the highest mountain in Wales! 🙁 (On account of we want to be let in the gates! 😉 )
Please let us know via some means that you are coming,
Cheers,
Martin
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Bletchley Park to go Themed-and-Branded?
Unfortunately, Bletchley Park is in the news at the moment in non-too bright a light:
BBC News Video: Bletchley Park’s bitter dispute over its future
Elderly Bletchley Park volunteer sacked for showing Colossus exhibit to visitors
Volunteers slam plans to turn Bletchley Park into ‘geeky Disneyland’
The comments there suggest that the very knowledgeable and enthusiastic volunteers that have made Bletchley Park what it is are now to be remoulded by actors to give a swish “1 hour” “experience” rather than the rambling tours of old of 90 minutes and (for our visits) sometimes much longer. Also to ‘go’ are such as the hall of Churchill memorabilia, local amateur radio station, and other non-glitzy associated material…
I think that our “experience” of the place was that the volunteer enthusiasm and functional worn look of the place were very much authentically what Blatchley Park was. The non-glitzy non-museum look makes it all very real for what was done there and when and how. As for the “1 hour” “experience” mentioned: We found there was still yet more to explore after two full days of visits!
I hope the volunteers and general opinion can save all that is very enthusiastically wartime British about the place and maintains the good will and enthusiasm of the volunteers there who are essential to bring it all alive. Paid actors hopelessly just ‘do not get it’.
I also hope that the Churchill memorabilia and the lifelong custodian can very soon find new continued life with a welcome somewhere nearby.
Here’s hoping that a remarkable relic of our recent past is not dumbed down to be a 1 hour dash to the trinkets shop.
(Usual disclaimer reminder: All just my own personal viewpoint as for all commenters here!)
ps: Good reminder to write-up and post up the pics from our last visit!… 😛
Whilst I really enjoyed the experience, they might simply not be bringing the money in. I can understand why what we did might be “dull” to younger children who don’t understand the history or aren’t yet deeply into tech beyond playing games; and trying to engage them to bring in more people is a “good thing”(tm). Although whether the cost of paid actors (who may or may not care about the history) over volunteers (who do care) is offset by increase revenue is a good question.
The sacking may well have been correct according to the terms of contracts, but it is bone-headed in the extreme. Bletchly attracts one set, NMC attracts another. They can then feed off each other’s slightly different capture demographics. I wonder if the Trust is upset that the NMC has that natty little computer lad wall-to-wall with old Beebs, Segas etc? Kiddy heaven.
Reminds me, I really must get my BBC B+ down from the loft. I have the 6502 co-pro, I have the disc drive, I have *THE* disc; all I need is a compatible analog joystick and “Elite Executive Edition” here I come. Hmm…I wonder if something could be made to convert a modern USB joystick/game pad into analog signals?
Anyway; it does sound like they want to flat-pack, portion and commoditise the park into yet another, bland “informercial” type experiences. When will the “Turing Teacups” arrive?
That sounds like the gist of the angst and especially so for how changes are being made… It would be a great shame if the sudden influx of grant money sours the working of the place rather than everyone enjoying the place being sympathetically improved for all.
Just for one example if they are to stay faithful and sympathetic to the history of the place, there can be no “Turing Teacups” in any merchandising. There should be only the one teacup that Turing left chained to the radiator in Hut 8! 😛
This blog posting gives a good feel for a non-techie visit to Bletchley Park by someone steeped in the period. Here’s hoping the new glitzy view doesn’t sweep all that away…
Meanwhile, from my reading, the Bletchley Park Trust approach towards TNMOC and the various historic computers they hold including such as the Bombe and Colossus looks to be somewhat like bullying and sabotage:
TNMOC: The bigger picture: fragmenting a heritage site
The ongoing fencing off and isolation sounds very silly and even destructive towards a dedicated volunteer group. Very sad.
Can something positive be done?
Blechley Park is in the news again, but for much better historic reasons this time round. In rather deadpan The Register style:
UK spooks STILL won’t release Bletchley Park secrets 70 years on
There’s more mysteries there yet to unfold?…
Meanwhile, the BBC add their bit to the 70 years of Colossus celebrations at TNMOC:
Lifting the lid on a Colossal secret
Indeed pioneering times. Hopefully not to be fenced off for a second time! 🙁
Evidently so for…
The story continues with:
How GCHQ built on a colossal secret
All very secretly pioneering to continue a secret war leading right through to the recent revelations by Edward Snowden…
Is this where one notably famous person from Bletchley Park is given a whole new spin? 😉
Pet Shop Boys premiere Alan Turing work at BBC Proms
Time rambles on in a colossal way 😛
Museum reunion for Colossus computer veterans
Only thing is: How long before the dust settles around the now “next door” to TNMOC? 😐
Who’s on for a Christmas visit?… 🙂
TNMOC stay positively in the news (whilst the ‘separated’ Bletchley Park stay in the shadows?):
Official: Turing’s Bombe BETTER than a Concorde plane
Couldn’t agree more!
Going vintage and retro in a slightly different and more recent world than the war compute engines at TNMOC, and more artistically arranged than the games room they have there… We now have our very own here in Nottingham:
Nottingham to open ‘cultural’ centre for videogames
Game on! 🙂
Drifting OT a little, there is now also a multitude of little gems from days-gone-by now available to be cyber-browsed, detailed here in true The Register enthusiasm 🙂
Brighten your November morning: 900 in-browser arcade classics added to the Internet Archive
Game on! 😛
TNMOC rebuild yet another historic computing gem that is still attracting original parts from far flung places years later:
Lost chunk of pioneering Edsac computer found
And here’s the earlier teasers to see what latest vintage has been recrafted to return to electronic life:
Museum switches on historic computer
UK computing museum starts reboot of 65-year-old EDSAC
Hermann Hauser opens EDSAC display at National Museum of Computing
Indeed historic stuff!
Next visit? 😉
Separately, Bletchley Park and the machines at TNMOC shine in the news and also on our old paper mail:
The Bletchley Girls and The Debs of Bletchley Park – review
Royal Mail’s Colossus move gets ex-WREN’s stamp of approval
Turing family hand in petition at Downing Street
Times change and hopefully we crack on to better ways…
Beyond Bletchley
After the war was done, and the Bletchley huts were emptied, the cogs of cryptography continued to turn under the shroud of Cold War secrecy:
How NSA and GCHQ spied on the Cold War world
And what now in our ever more electronic highly connected age?…
There’s still secrets to be found and told:
€100 ‘typewriter’ turns out to be €45,000 Enigma machine
Still something to watch out for…
TNMOC grabs the good headlines again:
World’s first dedicated computer centre declared ‘irreplaceable’ by Historic England
El Reg may have overstretched themselves a little with confusing electrical H-bridges (and the Wheatstone bridge) with an old kitsch Aussie soap, but hey! All news like this is good news! 🙂
As always, there’s some good comment from the El Reg commentards…
One to be soon revisited!! 😉 😉
TNMOC continues to move onwards! (They got their Bombe back!! 🙂 )
National Museum of Computing to hold live Enigma code-breaking demo with a Bombe
As usual, good comment from the El Reg commentards…
And very good to hear and see. To be revisited! 🙂 🙂
After far too long… Finally a little bit more of the Bletchley Park story and achievements go on display at The National Museum of Computing:
Original WWII German message decrypts to go on display at National Museum of Computing
Good to see TNMOC are developing further regardless of their neighbour!
TNMOC adds some very UK historic multi-million pounds randomness to its live collections:
UK’s beloved RNGesus machine ERNIE goes quantum in 5th iteration
ERNIE 1 is a first of a kind with a wildly random mix of first-of-kind new tech of the day. And so there they have it! Or rather, a no less impressive original demo system used to demonstrate that ERNIE 1 worked. And so do we see when it is revealed to the public this summer (2019)…
See also on YouTube: The origins of ERNIE – with Phil Hayes, from The National Museum of Computing
For our next random visit?! 😉
For a new development at Bletchley Park itself:
Plans for £26M Tech Institute at Bletchley Park
Here’s hoping that is all done in keeping with the site. However, compared to the original tidy-up of those old historic buildings and IIRC promises of renovating them to the glory of their wartime past, to my personal humble opinion this sounds like a sell-out (and a sell-off?)… Note that a large part of the Bletchley Park site has long ago been lost to a housing estate…
Also, this latest proposal looks to be a repeat of an earlier bid from 2018: Plans for Digital Technology Institute at Bletchley Park
Continued curious times in Bletchley Park?
Meanwhile, I hope that TNMoC across the other side of the Bletchley Park fence can gain some technical interest from the students and their college?…